totally broke budget

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I just used 4 foot Fluorescent tubes in a closet
6 $ -- for a fixture
6 $ -- for 2 tubes
3$ - for a fan

grew my plants about 28 inches tall

originally got the idea from this article ---->Growing Marijuana With Fluorescent Light Bulbs, Growing cannabis under TL light

no access to medical cannabis - or seeds - did my own breeding from bag seed

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grow room 4ft X 2 fixtures wide ( a few inches )

64 inches tall
only let plants get about 26 - 28 inches tall

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those are not my photos --just an example -
I only used two 4 ft fixtures that hold two tubes -no cfls @ all----too much heat from those

& here is my bag seed breeding journal

yellow history
Original name --Kudzu --------- the name says it all ------ I have medicine -- count on this one to not let you down - takes
care of itsself - walk away & let it do it's thing - all of the sudden the garden isn't a lot of work anymore - Died while I was in Jail

1st original seed came from one of my cups - I don't remember which one - someone rouge pollinated it while I was at the gym -
big tall outdoor - fast as hell growing - big yield - was skunk - but I have bread that out - big black Indica leaves - sativa leaves @
the top - red - brown - black - purple - knock you out nightime - brain dead - couchlock - lazy - stupid - hungry - tired - dead to
the world - asleep- big healthy roots - no cloning problems - no more insomnia - no nausea - feels like lungs are kaked with tar -
difficult to breathe - not to worry - this one will produce enough to eat - so smoking isn't necessary
nightime.medicine

Y1 - mean machine

passing torture test so far
looks like a reliable yellow to me

using older seeds & replacing with newer

will continue to breed yellow
males to the best yellow female

y2 pure yellow with the big black leaves

y1 & y2 kudzu yellow monsters
y0 male -- top secret survivor guy

y1 & y2 grow too fast - its typical yellow - grows so fast you can add green to your diet - same ol Kudzu growing -
but it's different & not skunk anymore

green

Yellow #1 --- X --- Blue #2


seeds now in stock

all seeds are from y0 & y1 male b2 female

Blue history

seed from black box that the ninjas placed there in the night - as I requested
has some stretch - solid buds - little sativa shaped leaves - It's blue grass - but turns black - Black weed budding - blue weed in veg
cloning easy - you can actually clone a bud - even more strange - the little weak nongrowing lowest branches seem to clone easier than
a big healthy shoot from the main stalk - buds on those little low limbs are as tight as the top ones- cures fast -
causes headaches if not trimmed carefully & thouroghly - best edible so far - good sleep med - not for daytime - I top this one
into multiple colas this one never did die -that's why it's here - I seemed to have a lot of clones from this one while the others were in shock
lived through my jailtime

blue


nightime - good edible for sleep
faster finisher -
grows good with multiple colas
able to clone buds without any problems

medicine
04-04-2014 --- somehow this
plant is still around
turns to moisture when smoked
be really picky desteming the buds
or you'll get a headache

best edible so far - for sleep
lower small branches clone even when bud
also lower buds are as tight as upper

I always top this one into several colas
& the bud sticks to the stems

I forgot what it looks like untopped
so I will grow another one
to see whats going on

blue got me stupified & I went to sleep

strange plant seems to have better luck
cloning low weak budding branches than
good big main stalk healthy shoots --
sucks that I have to keep reminding myself
that this is not for daytime use

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orange history
red females list
213 april 2014

not so much branching out
I'm looking for that quality
for this small indoor space will
continue to moniter

213 - pure 13 red - I'll grow
1 more to see if it can compare to 313

313 topper producer
213 no topping

on the way out

having secong thoughts - this one might replace 313 because this onne doesn't branch -- a few days will tell if it's night or day
growslike an original yellow - this is a good thing - doesn't branch or need topped - I don't really want them branching
I want them going straight up - thought it was no good - so i picked the seeds out & put them in the ditch b4 a big rain -
I was wrong this is a good one there will be more seed form this one - It migh as well be a yellow already the way it grows

produces well when topped

branches out when not topped

313 - good pure red - Torture test
approved - still here so far - stll
a daytime strain as far as being awake
but you wont have a brain at all
maybe a little sometimes

doing really well on
the torture test so far

313 daytime breeding project

tight buds - no complaints about trimming
still an ak47


513 - good pure red - nightime -
its 513 & not 113 because it was
the fith to flower & not the first

make orange seed & let evolve
on the way out

outta here - orange seed -- Yellow FSU
it can only imrove with yellow

y0 & y3 males

613 - fast producer/ finisher
nighttime project - seems to
allow some brain function for a
while until blackout couchlock
peralasis puts a stop to it -
was a red #13 seed but
seems to be a yellow X blue mix


flying colors on the torure test - looks like a survivor - looser buds - it's cool - better than a slow grower nontorture test passer
this one aint gone yet looking for those survivor traits & fast grower finisher -- Can always tighten buds later -
1013 will be used for that if it survives - y0 & y3 males - spring 2014

713 - good - pure red - it's all the
same really - it's like a bad storm
that rolls in & you are pinned down
useless until it's over - that's why
it's so good for sleeping -
713 - nightime -
mind is smewhat functional

make orange seed
on the way out

outta here yellow FSU -
it can only improve with yellow
y0 & y3 males

913 - faster finisher - daytime
red13 seed - dunno what crossed with

will also breed for
daytime seed as well as 313

outta the orange project back to red with this one -
no more orange seeds this ones retired - FSU yellow - y0 & y3 males spring 2014

1013 - daytime project - pure red

daytime seed #13
on the way out

outta orange project back to red - no more seeds from this one -- FSU yellow males y0 & y3 spring 2014

1113 - nighttime project - pure red

make orange seed
on the way out

outta here - yellow FSU
it can only improve with yellow

y0 & y3 males

1213 - red seed
fixin 2 see whats up

t0 & y3 males

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orange

Red #13 + Yellow #1
wild mix


seeds now in stock -
all current seeds are from
y0 & y1 males & red females 113-1213


Red -- will tighten up buds

Yellow -- will make more nightime
not necessarily finish faster but,
will be more potent nighttime stuff
earlier in trichome life

Yellow should do away with
cloning difficulties assoiciated with Red
----- or : ( vice versa -- even if
vise versa it's still a good seed strain
& I will continue to improve
as long as able


after much thought & consideration I have decided not to breed further with yellow - yellows devastating body stone
sucks the marrow out of your bones - it's for nighttime - I will in the future breed with other fast growers --
probably red - the faster reds anyway

red is a perfect strain - but only for seeds because of cloning difficulties - thats why yellow -
anyway I only need one nighttime & yellow is it - damn sure don't need yellow anywhere near anything but nightime or producers - but the product will be nighttime

red history
original #13 - renamed good day
seeds from some ancient civilization somewhere in asia
this one was seed strain with severe cloning difficulties - breeding that out & doing a good job of it
some of these will set there 6 years & not ever snap out of shock - shit will NOT grow - I fixed it -
beautiful strain - I can't really complain about any trimming difficulties - It's an AK47 strain
functional - heddy - daytime - able to read - have dreams at night - any night time versions of this
wonderful strain will be combined with other nighttime strains - any daytime versions of this strain will be stabilized
& red will just be that daytime strain

original #13
seems to be a lot of
daytime medicine around


good strain - will continue to stabalize

not the fastest finisher

basicly a daytime strain
but not always -
will continue to stabilize

currently observing this strain in the
now folder113 -213 -313 etc.

was a seed strain due to cloning
difficulties , but i seem to be doing
a good job of doing away with this
problem while keeping te strain as is


all reds displaying nighttime tendencies
will be bread with yellow for the
orange strain

red will be specifically a daytime strain
13 will die out & be replaced by red & orange

313 current keeper/ breeder - even late
in trichome life it's still daytme medicine

313 will be present primary
breeder to make daytime strain seeds
& 913 if its daytime on second try
both do extremely well in harsh
environment & torture test 913
finishes faster --
I'm not sure if 313 ever finishes daytime daytime daytime - not really conerned with this daytime stuff finishing fast -
I could care less - just makes it more daytime - presently goiing to war with 213 - original reds produce a lot of males from seed -
Unless a female environment is created - had a massivly high success rate making females using the four week method
213 is out of here - nightime - putting it with cp project - it's gone -- no longer 213 - now cp

current producer

looks like it may be 613
613 has leaf buds - I have
never seen this b4
613 - fast producer/ finisher
nighttime project
was a red #13 seed but
seems to be a yellow X blue mix

yeah 613 is fast for sleep
grows fast - finishes fast -
produces more
faster - therefore has
life saving qualities - lungs can
no longer be safely used !
blue #2 is staying in the game




313 & 413 seem to be
producing more than 213
dunno whats up with 213
seems fine in small cups but
big ones seem to be inferior
213 has mood swings .
213 is on the way out & I
will not save the seeds

giving 213 one more chance
up against 313 --413 was beat
though a good plant 313 is a better
producer


313 surviving torture test
looks like i'm going to be able to
work with this one best fastes
producing red 13 so far 213 went to
seed to early to tell all 13 plants
now have been bread with yellowto create
orange so this will continue to get
better as far as nightime medicine
cloning & yield the best ones are
continueing to move forward - thr first
seeds would not sprout & had to be taken
out of thier shell by hand

613 has hit the old slowdown
in the torture test - what wouldn't ?
besides 913

Honestly Y1 is looking like a bad
beast so far -

- the reason I never
moved forward in breeding is because
yell0w did such a good job & was so
maint free reliable nightime & a
producer that I never even bothered
trying to find something else all
males since have been bred with
that 1 good yellow female & a lot
of yellow inbreeding

Yellow will probably always be #1

213 - has yellow qualities from original yellow & seems to produce a high yield compared to others - I want to work with 613 but it
isn't snapping out of the old slowdown in regeneration - have had it in an air dome for a while -4 22 2014

213 has a lot to offer this project & will be added -- nighttime -- doesn't matter if it's night or day -- must be reliable
fast big yielder that is adapted to this environment & has no cloning problems - 213 is basicaly An original yellow red
mix that doesnt branch out - that's what I want - no branching - & y1
213 devastating original yellow - finishes faster - definately going in the project - I need these fast ones that can handle this environment -
not all can -- such as most reds

daytime history


History starts here - all daytime reds will become red strain & all nightime reds will be bred away from red such as
yellow + red = Orange
three seeds wet now - need males - I have good females to breed with - just need seeds from them - I only have a couple now
need more to continue the project


daytime

4.3 red #13 - I had a dream -
able to read & comprehend

1013 - had a dream - allows sleep with
less destruction of brain function

513 - can't sleep - waste of lungs
too early harvest
913 - can't sleep - waste of lungs

currently observing this strain in the
now folder.

I have 2 seeds from 4.3
I never did kill 4.3 but it
finally died the seeds are from a
super fast groing red13 male seed -
the red 13 strain seems to produce
a lot of males unless specifically
in an environment for more females
from seed so it should be highly
possible to get 1 if not 2 males
from 2 seeds these I will use as the
first males for daytime strain

I'll get to it someday but not now : (

313 current daytime keeper

4 - 26 - 2014
three seeds wet - bet a
million dollars I get three males
need males to make seeds from daytime keepers
got the seeds from 4.3 & hybrid vigor red
male - the one that grew 12 feet per hour -
that should do away with 4.3's disloyalty
& treason

three seeds sprouted & growing

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nightime


Yellow #1
Blue #2
red # 1113
red # 613---------------------
red # 713
red # 513
red # 213
mainly yellow
blue as well

my nighttime yellow producer

current keeper is y1

now growing

213 april 2014

not so much branching out
I'm looking for that quality
for this small indoor space will
continue to moniter

213 - pure 13 red - I'll grow
1 more to see if it can compare to 313

313 topper producer
213 no topping

on the way out

having secong thoughts - this one might replace 313 because this onne doesn't branch -- a few days will tell if it's night or day
growslike an original yellow - this is a good thing - doesn't branch or need topped - I don't really want them branching
I want them going straight up

nightime - moving to cp

produces well when topped

branches out when not topped

313 - good pure red - Torture test
approved - still here so far - stll
a daytime strain as far as being awake
but you wont have a brain at all
maybe a little sometimes

doing really well on
the torture test so far

313 daytime breeding project

nice strain

613 - fast producer/ finisher
nighttime project - seems to
allow some brain function for a
while until blackout couchlock
peralasis puts a stop to it -
was a red #13 seed but
seems to be a yellow X blue mix

913 - faster finisher - daytime
red13 seed - dunno what crossed with

will also breed for
daytime seed as well as 313

1013 - daytime project - pure red

daytime seed #13
on the way out

1113 - nighttime project - pure red

make orange seed
on the way out

1213 - red seed
fixin 2 see whats up

slow - on the way out - last ones

313 is #1 right now
producer speed &torture test

so far has beat 413 out rip
going up against 213 next

will give the slower ones a chance to
catch up & see what good qualities
they have if they continue to
survive until their turn


213 went to seed too young so
I didnt get to see its full potential
seems like I remember it producing
clones the fastest - current clones
are in the usual bad shock from
torture test this is expected & normal
now to see if & how fast they can pull
out of it

if it was up to the slower #13s
I wouldn't have medicine right now
---so ---- 313 vs 213


213 moved to cp-( current Producer )

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Blue#2 - not 4 daytime use

also see blue folder shortcut



best edible nighttime
topper strain would lookgood with 313
as a multi cola topper

then add more yellow badassness

I'll skip 313 & go straight for yellow
red cannot compare

also see yellow folder shortcut


I SERIOUSLY doubt that any Yellow
will be daytime medicine
y0 - good male
y1 - passed torture test so far
badass plant so far

y2 -surviving so far - BIG seeds
young sprout went to seed so I
didn't get to see it flower

next y2 - april 02 moved to 12&12
Looks like classic yellow
Big black indica leaves -
the higher up on the plant the more the
leaves turn to skinny pointy sativa
shape usually with these yellows
all my indicas really

most seeds currently came from y0 & y3 -
-- y3 just died because it flowered out
of no where & pollinated the whole place
-- so it can just live on through seed -
y0 is that one I know about

males

current -------------Y0

made orange - green & yellow seeds

delineately want seeds from Y1
currently observing y2

will always want to breed
with 313 for a topping producer

213 is officially under surveillance

& blue #2 of course


next ------orange-------------4.3

this should go a lot faster
since I will set the environment
to produce males make dust
& then get out


breed for daytime & backcross
into others for more oranges &
greens the male was awesome &
should have undone a lot of the
difficulties with 4.3 aka
the goddamn devil growers nightmare
the prime purpose is to get daytime
seeds from daytime strains to begin
the daytime project


next -----------original #12

I will then put 2 original #12
braindamage seeds that magicly
appeared out of the black hole
after being wiped out by an asteroid
I will see how they do - if well i'll
put them in the
nuclear bomb nighttime disaster

current male is - jungle hibernator
growing some daytime males now - I'll make seed with daytime strains & put them in the envelope - the males will be killed after that
currently don't have the time or space for this project - but seeds must be made

multi cola top history

Blue #2 nightime
red #313 daytime

multi cola top

313 - daytime
a lot of these reds seem to produce
more topped but not all

2Blue - nightime
I always top this one a lot

one cola top

213 currently under suveillance

a lot of reds should be like this
the originals were

close growing anyway

213

stone & growth like original yellow - finishes faster - kudzu strain
night time -- that means not for daytime use .

[Soloishungry]

whats up man,
i dig what your doing for your own personal stash.i am disabled with stomach problems so its medicine for me.

but not to get too much into that,its how your running your grow that interested me as i started out the same many many years ago.

i had a closet some bag seeds and a 400w mh.

i had no idea what i was doing,i was hell 14?
but i had a dream,and knew what i wanted.to feel better.

i lost that first run because well i was a kid and talked too much but i remembered how my grams would root her house plants in a cup of water,so at the bottom of my closet i took 1 bottom branch and put it in a 20oz bottle while my seeds vegged and such and ended up with a mom left to transplant of my favorite phenotype.but was so discouraged over the break in i chilled out for a while until i got a safer location.

when i set back up it was one room,with a table and a closet that wasnt even light tight lol.
god i had no idea what i was doing back then,but out of my other bag seed i found an amazing indica phenotype with a creamy taste and skunky smell.then i learned about cannabis culture mag and emerys seeds and grabbed a few new varieties to try out.

i crossed into my bag seed female with a mikado male(coincidentally mikado is a strain ive been breeding with now 16yrs later after being able to acquire the otherwise lost strain)and found my own favorite pheno,worked on my cloning tech a bit and the rest is history.there is still about 200 of these seeds floating somewhere out there around buffalo lol.no idea where my buddy is now but he took them on to grow when he moved.

all in all it was a fun experience and awesome for a first time project.now that ive educated myself and started working with some more solid cuts/seeds/landraces.... quality and yield has improved so has my breeding technique and ethics.

but if i lost it all and had nothing but a light damn straight id use a few bag seeds from some good loud and see if i could single out a strong female with no male traits or tendencies.

the way your going about your breeding program is much like what dj short did in the past as well as all the old heads and hippies back before you could buy seeds or clones.things were kept in close circles and worked on throughout years of time(hell dj short has his son breeding with him now

like it or not this is where most of our heritage/landrace/founding strains were created.even the og,sours,chems all came from bag seeds of some really fire loud.no one knew or knows exactly what it is.just speculation and reputation.phenotypes were singled out for their best traits and from what i remember every seed popped from that gd show(dogweed)if im remembering correctly became a famous clone only thanks to chemdawg og sour d.it would be great to have the creation of these lines more locked down which is why good note taking and proper techniques can take you far on your journey of funk.

all the best to you,would love to see what your final product/cut comes out like.im digging deeper into my seed stash and past projects and am going to start a new life more or less.leds,soil,organic nutes.more medical than for a hustle.i will always breed but the herb is staying in my lungs and those of others in need.

i have a child almost in 4th grade,and realized the 20yr old punks are the ones who sell to 16 yr old punks who go sell to children and dont give a fuck where their money comes from.i think its important we all remember things like that especially if a parent ourselves.this is a medicine and should be treated as such.now if my kid was sick like i was as a kid id provide it for him with dr support.but thats another topic entirely.